wiki-illiam #104: q6

[dubdobdee]

Q6: Who:
i: was Foolish?
ii: was Rodrigo de Borja y Borja?
iii: invested Henry Sinclair as Earl of Orkney?
iv: had a half-sister sired by his father's physician?
v: founded a Siamese school, which was later named in his honour?
vi: was born on the 34th annversary of the death of his great grandfather and the 17th of that of his great aunt?
vii: was the offspring of parents sharing the same grandmother?
viii: was the 36th and last in a line started in 1299?
ix: was blinded by his mother Irene?
x: was tripartite?

the rules as they have evolved:
a: nice full answers and anecdotes if poss
b: say if googled or no; leave time for non-googlers to play
c: obviously look ahead at future questions if you want
d: don't bring in confirming or dissenting answers from other fora until next set is up and running

spoilers: er er i think emperor constantine's mum was called irene and bullied him, and "all gaul is divided into three part -- all? no!" but i'm not sure either of these is right -- i feel the answers are mostly royal

Comments

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

surely the anwswers are: Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee, Baker, Davidson, Fat Colin, McCoy, Wiggy, Ecclescake, Tennants?

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

obviously you HAD actually worked out the theme there

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

ii. another GAFFSIE replacement name, there.

vii. isn't this like EVERY royal house in europe? the grandparents being Vic and Al... i don't think it's the queen and princess margaret as the queen mum (gawd bless 'er) was relatively common, as far as these things go...

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Same grandmother rather than same grandparents implies its a royal gal who had kids by more than one king tho.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

i. this is a French king I am sure of it, possibly one of the Charleses? They all had stupid nicknames.

hurray for wiki

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Charles II = THE BALD
Charles THE FAT
Charles III THE SIMPLE (could this be our fool?)
Charles VI THE MAD
Charles VIII THE AFFABLE

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

v = Yul Brynner obv

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Actually I'm not far off! It is Yul Brynner's eldest son who danced with Deb Kerr innit :)

It's a university, not a school

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Chulalongkorn University also has a Morals Network, which actively campaigns to protect student activities from damaging the university's reputation. The University's Cheer Club annually organizes the Chula-Thammasat Traditional Football Match.

[jinx-of-2ndlaw.livejournal.com]

King Hakon of Norway invested Henry Sinclair...

Constantine was blinded by his mother Irene...

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

This round seems quite a lot easier than the other ones? Easier to google, at any rate - ii) is definitely very bourgeois

[anatol-merklich.livejournal.com]

Aha! Googling and wikiing ii and ix, and accepting jinx' answer to iii, I think I see the THEME!

[anatol-merklich.livejournal.com]

Hint: which question is this?

answered out loud so far (no help from me but i was on the way to work)

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i: charles i the foolish of france
ii:
iii: haakon iii of norway
iv:
v: rama v of siam
vi:
vii:
viii:
ix: constantine vi of byzantium (i guess i did half-know this cf spoilers)
x:

oops idiot ddd

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i: charles vi the foolish of france
ii:
iii: haakon vi of norway
iv:
v: rama vi of siam
vi:
vii:
viii:
ix: constantine vi of byzantium (i guess i did half-know this cf spoilers)
x:

[anatol-merklich.livejournal.com]

x) "tripartite": could it be that same name (Something VI) was held somewhere by three different persons (not necessarily at the same time), out of confusion or dispute?

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

that would be a POPE then!

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

vii might be henry vi -- his dad's grandad was john of gaunt who was directly related to everyone in the world

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

but no one's grandmother obv :\

i shut up now

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i: charles vi the foolish of france
ii: pope alexander vi
iii: haakon vi of norway
iv:
v: rama vi of siam
vi:
vii:
viii:
ix: constantine vi of byzantium (i guess i did half-know this cf spoilers)
x: henry vi of england and other stuff

[anatol-merklich.livejournal.com]

Seems to me iv should be English/British, this is the kind of not-all-that-notable trivia they probably wouldn't ask if it was elsewhere. Which kingnames have got as far as VI in Eng/UK? Edward, George...

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

george vi = unlikely (his mum was the surely unimpeachable mary of teck)

edward vi = his half-sisters were queens elizabeth and mary

henry vi = already accounted for

viii

[anatol-merklich.livejournal.com]

Trying to think of & eliminate candidate monarchies for 36-member lineages that might have started in 1299. Guessing at an average of 15 years per king (inheritance may go sideways as well as to kids), we end up in 1839, does that help any. Estimate may well a bit on the late side.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

spain seems possible -- when were the moors kicked out?

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Actually I think vi is George VI - born on Dec 14th 1895, Prince Albert died Dec 14th 1861.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

And his great-aunt Princess Alice died Dec 14th 1878 of diptheria which she caught by hugging her children! Awww.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

The Ottoman Dynasty (or the Imperial House of Osman) (Turkish: Osmanlı Hanedanı) ruled the Ottoman Empire from 1299 to 1922... The Sultanate was abolished on November 1, 1922, and the last sultan, Mehmed VI Vahdettin (reigned 1918–1922), left the country on November 17, 1922.


In 1601 Sultan Mehmed III was called: Sultan Hân N.N., Padishah, Hünkar, Hakan ül-Berreyn vel-Bahreyn; Sovereign of the House of Osman, Sultan of Sultans, Khan of Khans, Commander (Caliph) of the Faithful and Successor of the Prophet of the Lord of the Universe, Custodian of the Holy Cities of Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem, Caesar of the Roman Empire, Emperor of The Three Cities of Constantinople, Adrianople and Bursa, and of the Cities of Damascus and Cairo, of all Azerbaijan, of the Magris, of Barka, of Kairouan, of Aleppo, of Arabic Iraq and of Acem, of Basra, of Al-Hasa, of Dilen, of Ar Raqqah, of Mosul, of Parthia, of Diyarbakır, of Cilicia, of the Vilayets of Erzurum, of Sivas, of Adana, of Karaman, Van, of Barbary, of Abyssinia, of Tunisia, of Tripoli, of Damascus, of Cyprus, of Rhodes, of Candia, of the Vilayet of the Morea, of the Marmara Sea, the Black Sea and also its coasts, of Anatolia, of Rumelia, Baghdad, Greece, Turkistan, Tartary, Circassia, of the two regions of Kabarda, of Georgia, of the plain of Kypchak, of the whole country of the Tartars, of Kefe and of all the neighboring countries, of Bosnia and its dependencies, of the City and Fort of Belgrade, of the Vilayet of Serbia, with all the castles, forts and cities, of all Albania, of all Eflak and Bogdania, as well as all the dependencies and borders, and many other countries and cities.

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

ha, you must have been pretty rubbish to be part of the "many other countries and cities" bit...

iv

[anatol-merklich.livejournal.com]

I was wrong upthread:

Louise Auguste of Denmark, Duchess of Augustenborg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Louise_Auguste_of_Denmark) or Louise Augusta, (7 July 1771 - 13 January 1843) was officially daughter of King Christian VII of Denmark and Queen Caroline Mathilde. Unofficially it is widely accepted that her natural father was Johann Friedrich Struensee, the king’s royal physician and de facto regent of the country at the time of her birth [. She was referred to sometimes as "la petite Struensee".

Chris VII (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_VII_of_Denmark) was quite mad and preferred getting into pub brawls with the royal(!) constabulary at night together with a prostitute friend -- [h]e publicly declared that he could not love Caroline Mathilde, because it was "unfashionable to love one's wife"..

This means that the answer is the (actual) son of Christian VII of Denmark, ie Frederick VI.