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4. Who:

1: held exclusive dinner parties at Veere?
2: is remembered in Northland's most westerly point?
3: built an insular wooden cabin by a sea which took his name?
4: is famed for his chained fringillid and died in the devastating Thunderclap?
5: was a student of Brahe and later made diagrammatic representations for VOC?
6: was the father-in-law of a great painter and the guest of a quiet leader on the day of his fatal shooting?
7: was the ethical philosopher with an interest in optics who received a cherem?
8: stayed in Queens' and was Lady Margaret Professor of Divinity?
9: developed his own apparatus to study animalcules?
10: removed Royal Charles from Chatham?

Date: 2013-01-01 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com)
Given that Veere is in Holland, the VOC is the Dutch East India Company, and an apparatus to study animalcules will be some kind of microscope (which, like the telescope, traces its origins to the Middleburg region of the Netherlands), I expect our answers are all Dutch People.

The only sea I can think of which bears a Dutch guy's name is the Tasman. Abel Tasman charted the eastern coasts of Australia (including Tasmania, which he named Van Diemen's land after his patron) and much of New Zealand (which he named after his home province of Zeeland). He would have had several opportunities to build an island cabin, though none spring to mind immediately. Unless it's a ship's cabin, rather than the hut kind?

Would the 'quiet leader' be Ghandi?

Date: 2013-01-01 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alextiefling.livejournal.com
I think the 'quiet leader' is William the Silent, founding father of the United Provinces.

Date: 2013-01-01 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
Aha, he was indeed shot to death -- if I remember my trivia correctly, he was the first leader ever to be assassinated* by a handgun (which was in the hand of one Balthazar Gérard).

Date: 2013-01-01 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
sorry, forgot the footnote:
*) as opposed to e.g. "killed in battle", I guess

Date: 2013-01-02 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com)
Is there a Dutch province with a name that translates to 'northland'? I know Norway has one, but...

The northernmost province of New Zealand is called Northland, and its most westerly point is Cape Maria van Diemen - named by Abel Tasman after the wife of his financial backer.

Which means that possibly 3 refers to someone else with an eponymous sea.

Date: 2013-01-02 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
Good call on the cape! This makes the "Dutch people" theory look good (or maybe even "van ..." people?)

Date: 2013-01-01 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
as animalcules are microbes and Brahe is Tycho Brahe I imagined this might haves scientists -- possibly amateur (or royal) scientists

Date: 2013-01-01 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
I believe the guy who invented the microscope was named van Leeuwenhoek or similar?

Date: 2013-01-02 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alextiefling.livejournal.com
Yes - I was wanting to say Hans Lippershey, but I now recall that he invented the terrestrial telescope. Antony van Leeuwenhoek, I think, came up with the first microscope.

Date: 2013-01-01 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
btw does anyone know what a fringillid or a cherem is? Maybe knowing this could trigger some idea...

Date: 2013-01-02 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alextiefling.livejournal.com
Royal Charles sounds like an English flagship, and Chatham is a dockyard; so is #10 King William the Third?

A student of Brahe would probably be an astronomer. Is Christiaan Huygens early enough to have studied under Brahe?

I now know from WP that a cherem is, amongst other things, a form of Jewish excommunication, so #7 is undoubtedly Baruch Spinoza.

Date: 2013-01-02 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
Ah yes! He died of having inhaled too much glass dust, didn't he?

Date: 2013-01-02 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
I wikied "fringillidae" -- it is the finch family. That gave me an association to someone being known for a canary on a chain, and wiki indeed also confirmed the canary is a finch! But I can't remember who someone is -- does this ring a bell for others?

Date: 2013-01-04 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Number 6: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rombertus_van_Uylenburgh

Date: 2013-01-04 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And 8 is Erasmus: http://www.queens.cam.ac.uk/page-2006

Date: 2013-01-04 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sean walsh (from livejournal.com)
(Hello, sorry for the previous curt anonymous comments, I'm @seanwalsh on twitter and woof on ilx, and I ran into this via dubdobdee on twitter. Sorting out personal finances today, and so obvs PROCRASTINATING like mad and couldn't resist.)

Royal Charles/Chatham - It's the raid on the Medway, I think, from the Second Anglo-Dutch War - the RC is taken by Dutch ships, but I can't be more specific than that. I'll look into it now.

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