wiki-illiam #104: q12

[dubdobdee]

Q12: Where:
i: was the mistress leguminous?
ii: were the Harmonic Meetings regularly held?
iii: was Rogue resuscitated after his prolonged immersion?
iv: did the circus manager point out that "People must be amuthed"?
v: did the curate speak for one hour and 25 minutes at an anti-slavery meeting?
vi: did a little, yellow high-shouldered man, with a fixed grim smile, tell about a queer client?
vii: did the landlord report that Phil was so drunk that a boy might take him?
viii: did the Yorkshire schoolmaster interview tutors and pupils?
ix: did the strange man stir his rum-and-water with a file?
x: did the hangman bind the old man to his chair?

the rules as they have evolved:
a: nice full answers and anecdotes if poss
b: say if googled or no; leave time for non-googlers to play
c: obviously look ahead at future questions if you want
d: don't bring in confirming or dissenting answers from other fora until next set is up and running

spoilerspresumably these are all fiction, otherwise absolutely in the dark here

Comments

[marnameow.livejournal.com]

Ooh, I know lots of these!

iv - Hard Times
ix - Great Expectations

Which are both Dickens, so that's something of a theme.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

& presumably therefore viii is from Nicholas Nickleby.

The question is where tho, so it's locations in Dickens? I have read a fair bit of Dickens but none of these particular phrases stuck in my head!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I remember that Dotheboys Hall is in Yorkshire (near Greta Bridge) because I used to own the soundtrack album to atrocious 80s Nickleby musical SMIKE!

[marnameow.livejournal.com]

I can't remember *at all* where anything was said in Hard Times. Factory? Circus? School? That irritating lisp, though, made me rly annoyed. The whole book made me rly annoyed, actually.

Great Expectations I also can't remember. Right near the beginning, and somewhere dark and damp and gloomy?

[marnameow.livejournal.com]

Mind, the whole of Great Expectations is either dark and damp, or dark and dusty, in my head.

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

I wonder if all of the locations are PUBBES

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

that seems plausible

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

I know this! It's 1x coaching inn called the Saracen's Head!

Near to the jail, and by consequence near to Smithfield also, and the Compter, and the bustle and noise of the city; and just on that particular part of Snow Hill where omnibus horses going eastward seriously think of falling down on purpose, and where horses in hackney cabriolets going westward not unfrequently fall by accident, is the coach-yard of the Saracen's Head Inn

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Mr Wackford Squeers held interviews in said establishment between the hours of 1pm and 4pm! I can't believe I actually knew an answer properly without having to google for it...

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

There's a character called 'Rogue' Riderhood in Our Mutual Friend. I know he drowns in the Thames at the end. Not sure what the answer to the question is however.

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

haha, i was hoping Rogue referred to the 2000AD character...

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

The pub that's central to OMF is the Six Jolly Fellowship-Porters, so that's probably the answer. But I still haven't worked out what the clue is getting at.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Is ix a reference to Magwitch then?

[marnameow.livejournal.com]

Yes, or The Convict, as he's known in my head. He starts off by promising the EAT the lad if he's not given the file (and food), but I think the showing-it-off comes later on, when he's being all mysterious abt paying Pip's way.

[marnameow.livejournal.com]

Oh hai I am inept and managed to repost a comment from *yesterday* well done me.

+ now plus w/ added Google

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

^This all korrektio but for completeness the tavern in which the stirring with said file happened was the [Three] Jolly Bargemen

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

I assume we're going to give Kat and other regulars a chance to play before providing answers found via google? (I have i and ii now.)

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Yes pls! I have been in a meeting all day. Will catch up when I get home.

vi...

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

...sounds like Bleak House to me. Perhaps Mr Guppy?

Re: vi...

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Or Guppy's mate's dad: dude with a pipe = probably quite yellow

Re: vi...

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Nope I am INCORRECT here, the actual ans is v easily googleable (and refers to one I haven't read). It is also in a pub.

i

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Queen of Sedge and BEAN :)

Seriously tho - clearly someone called Miss Beanish or something like that?

Re: i

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

in fact -- via overseeing something i shouldn't have -- it's miss LUPIN i believe

Re: i

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Aha - Chuzzlewit?

Re: i

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

(nb have not read Chuzzlewit but I watched the BBC adaptation in the mid-90s so it counts)

Re: i

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

MRS L. - and the pubbe is the Blue Dragon Inn

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

I knew one of these must be the pub in Bleak House where they all convene and swap tales regarding the dead opium addict dude found in Mr Krook's upstairs flat (the guy who turns out to be Scully's long lost soldier chum). Mr Guppy and Mr Smallweed discover the bloke, you see, and they are plied with booze so they spill all the juicy gossip.

(turns out this is no. ii - Sol's Head is the pub, off Chancery Lane)

ii

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

Sol's Arms I read

x

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Is Fagin hanged (hung?) at the end of Ollie Twist?

Re: x

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

yes

vii

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

But googling reveals that vii is in fact the Ollie Twist qn.

The 'Phil' is Phil Barker, and it's the landlord of The [Three] Cripples that makes the report... to Fagin, who responds "Ah! But it's not Phil Barker's time. Phil has something more to do, before we can afford to part with him; so go back to the company, my dear, and tell them to lead merry lives--WHILE THEY LAST. Ha! ha! ha!"