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... this kind of climbing frame?



update: better pic for working out what i mean (the top one is a better photo qua photo)


also: are they still made?

Date: 2008-03-31 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsgomiaow.livejournal.com
I think they are called JUNGLE GYMS in the US but I'm sure I always just used to call them climbing frames...

Date: 2008-03-31 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
um, yeah, me too. in fact, i'd say everything else that didn't look like this should have a name that isn't climbing frame...

Date: 2008-03-31 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
well you won't enjoy google-imaging "climbing frame" in that case d00d!

Date: 2008-03-31 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anthonyeaston.livejournal.com
we always called them jungle gyms, now the fancy playground designers call them climbing apparatus. (though in the uk, apparently climbers is still in use, and they use wood instead of plastic like here) (http://www.playdale.co.uk/products_services/play_index.htm)

they have removed the wigwam and the square shaped ones around here because of death! (hoodie strings and the like)

Date: 2008-03-31 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
yes i wondered if they'd stopped being made because of accidents

the designers -- paul and marjorie abbatt -- were legendary in middleclass england in the 60s: they made a lot of rather lovely (and prizewinning) all-wood toys

anthony

Date: 2008-03-31 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anthonyeaston.livejournal.com
i loved the ones made of old railroad ties and tires around here, huge things...maybe almost a story

Date: 2008-03-31 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
I thought it might be climbing grid but it turns out those are the walls made of rope which you get on assault courses and the sides of playground forts.

Date: 2008-03-31 02:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Yeah, Jungle Gym in the U.S. and Canada, no doubt because of the comic strip and then movies featuring Jungle Jim.

Date: 2008-03-31 02:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Actually it is the other way around. The comic strip didn't begin until 1934, whereas the "Junglegym" was patented by Sebastion Hinton in 1920 (invented for the nursery school of his wife Carmelita Hinton, who a decade and a half later founded the Putney School). Sebastian Hinton committed suicide in 1923.

Date: 2008-03-31 02:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
(This according to Wiki, anyway.)

a disapppointed man

Date: 2008-03-31 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
"Hinton's chief goal, however, was to enable children to achieve an intuitive understanding of 3-dimensional space through a game in which numbers for the x,y, and z axes were called out and each child tried to be the first to grasp the indicated junction. Thus the abstraction of Cartesian coordinates could be grasped as a name of a tangible point in space."

oddly enuff, this topic arose bcz i was trying to dream up a nice clear image to explain the idea of euclidean pace to a total non-mathematician, and wonder if "a climbing frame infinitely extended in all directions" would to do job

(it wouldn't because there are too many difft geometries of climbing frame/monkey bars/jungle gyms to be immediately clear)

Date: 2008-03-31 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
based on the science of google-image, i think i would in fact argue that "climbing frame", "jungle gym" and "monkey bars" are synonyms -- and that few make distinctions within this triple-named category

Date: 2008-03-31 02:40 pm (UTC)
koganbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] koganbot
Yes, they are essentially synonyms, except that (1) I never heard or saw the phrase "climbing frame" until today, and (2) sometimes "monkey bars" is used specifically for the horizontal overhead grid that kids dangle from and move by "walking" with their hands.

Date: 2008-03-31 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
climbing frame seems to be the standard brit generic; i guess it implies something a bit more 3D than wallbars

i dimly remember the one at my first school was always simply (and sinisterly) referred to as the "apparatus" -- i don't remember ever being allowed on it

Date: 2008-03-31 02:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-31 02:48 pm (UTC)
koganbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] koganbot
But when you say "This kind of climbing frame" do you specifically mean the boxes within boxes construction you've got pictured, as opposed to variants such as our friend Moebius:

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Date: 2008-03-31 02:54 pm (UTC)
koganbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] koganbot
Or the Great Pyramid:

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Date: 2008-03-31 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
yes i specifically did NOT mean these kinds as they wd be v.unhelpful for the thought experiment i hoped i was able to get the readers to make

HOWEVER the english and/or american languages are not finetuned enough for my poetico-euclidian genius-precision :(

Date: 2008-03-31 03:04 pm (UTC)
koganbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] koganbot
"Boxes within boxes climbing frames except the boxes all have to be the same size and connected and there can be no overlaps, like a fucking grid, and what do you mean you don't understand what I'm talking about? Well, look at a fucking picture then. Here."

Date: 2008-03-31 02:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
(As a kid I always thought Jungle Gyms were boring, since after you climbed around in them once then so what? Also not big on swingsets or slides.

Date: 2008-03-31 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com
I think you'll find they are called things like 'Modular Cube' if you look them up under Sol LeWitt in an art book.

Date: 2008-03-31 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
i bet kids aren't allowed to climb on the modular cube!

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