wiki-illiam q4!
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dubdobdee4.
i. after which action were eleven decorated for valour?
ii. where did the Tidy Pachyderm start his journey to the Limpopo?
iii. who was described by James Arcoll as a sort of black Napoleon?
iv. who replaced Cartwright and caused a quarter of a century’s isolation?
v. who acquainted the Tswana people with the confusing story of Egeon’s twin sons?
vi. who loved honey with a passion that we, with a sweet-shop on every corner, cannot hope to
understand?
vii. who regretted lack of achievement, with so large an outstanding agenda?
viii. who was the victim of a tapeworm’s instruction to a schizophrenic?
ix. which flagship was accompanied by Reijger and Goede Hoope?
x. where was government conducted from a railway siding?
the rules as they have evolved:
a: give nice full answers and anecdotes!
b: say if googled or not, and leave a bit of a while for people to answer non-googlingly
c: you're obviously allowed to look ahead at future questions as (first) this was published in a national newspaper and i can't stop you and (second) i can't stop ME either, and have done exactly this
SPOILERS viz my first stabs at answers
ii: (w/o google) is surely related to the elephant's child in the just so stories viz the "grey green greasy limpopo, all set about with fever trees" -- but i will have to look up where he started
iii: my first thought was toussaint l'ouverture, but i think he was the leader of the "Black Jacobins", which doesn't quite tally
vi: might be pooh bear??
anyway i *THINK* the theme is children's books! which if so i should know more about it!
i. after which action were eleven decorated for valour?
ii. where did the Tidy Pachyderm start his journey to the Limpopo?
iii. who was described by James Arcoll as a sort of black Napoleon?
iv. who replaced Cartwright and caused a quarter of a century’s isolation?
v. who acquainted the Tswana people with the confusing story of Egeon’s twin sons?
vi. who loved honey with a passion that we, with a sweet-shop on every corner, cannot hope to
understand?
vii. who regretted lack of achievement, with so large an outstanding agenda?
viii. who was the victim of a tapeworm’s instruction to a schizophrenic?
ix. which flagship was accompanied by Reijger and Goede Hoope?
x. where was government conducted from a railway siding?
the rules as they have evolved:
a: give nice full answers and anecdotes!
b: say if googled or not, and leave a bit of a while for people to answer non-googlingly
c: you're obviously allowed to look ahead at future questions as (first) this was published in a national newspaper and i can't stop you and (second) i can't stop ME either, and have done exactly this
SPOILERS viz my first stabs at answers
ii: (w/o google) is surely related to the elephant's child in the just so stories viz the "grey green greasy limpopo, all set about with fever trees" -- but i will have to look up where he started
iii: my first thought was toussaint l'ouverture, but i think he was the leader of the "Black Jacobins", which doesn't quite tally
vi: might be pooh bear??
anyway i *THINK* the theme is children's books! which if so i should know more about it!
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Date: 2008-01-07 01:33 pm (UTC)(i thought ii might be nellie the elephant, before realising she went to MANDALAY, not on the limpopo to the best of my knowledge)
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Date: 2008-01-07 01:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-01-07 01:43 pm (UTC)Is the theme anthropomorphised animals?
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Date: 2008-01-07 01:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-07 01:36 pm (UTC)still looking nothing up
Date: 2008-01-07 01:43 pm (UTC)viii: is there a tapeworm in james and the giant peach
(also worth considering -- based on previous wiki-illiam theme form -- is that they are ALL from rudyard k) (and that the pooh-bear one is a feint)
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Date: 2008-01-07 01:47 pm (UTC)Re: still looking nothing up
Date: 2008-01-07 01:47 pm (UTC)Re: still looking nothing up
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Date: 2008-01-07 01:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-07 01:44 pm (UTC)i fellowship of the ring?
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Date: 2008-01-07 02:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-07 01:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-07 01:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-07 01:52 pm (UTC)Googled:
From:Google may not be our friend
Date: 2008-01-07 01:55 pm (UTC)uh oh
Re: Google may not be our friend
Date: 2008-01-07 02:02 pm (UTC)I HAV GOOGLED
Date: 2008-01-07 01:58 pm (UTC)(I also think I know the theme, but amn't sure, and Pooh Bear definitely doesn't fit in!)
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Date: 2008-01-07 02:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-07 02:08 pm (UTC)wild guess off at tangent after googling xi and a bit of v
Date: 2008-01-07 02:20 pm (UTC)(that was the sound of a memory bubble bursting)
Re: wild guess off at tangent after googling xi and a bit of v
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Date: 2008-01-07 02:12 pm (UTC)so this is a book where the Comedy of Errors is explained to the Tswana people
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Date: 2008-01-07 02:19 pm (UTC)oh god, it wasn't peter brook was it? on a carpet in a marketplace somewhere?
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Date: 2008-01-07 02:13 pm (UTC)(via google obv)
Date: 2008-01-07 02:17 pm (UTC)Re: (via google obv)
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Date: 2008-01-07 02:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-07 02:27 pm (UTC)i have drawn inference that theme = EXPLORERS and EXPLORATION
Date: 2008-01-07 02:25 pm (UTC)v. doctor livingstone i presume!
vii. does remind me of capt scott
ix. a dutch ship called "the dromedary" (in dutch)
Re: i have drawn inference that theme = EXPLORERS and EXPLORATION
Date: 2008-01-07 02:56 pm (UTC)attempt at official actual real proper true answers before the roll-up!
Date: 2008-01-07 03:02 pm (UTC)ii. "That very next morning, when there was nothing left of the Equinoxes, because the Precession had preceded according to precedent, this 'satiable Elephant's Child took a hundred pounds of bananas (the little short red kind), and a hundred pounds of sugar-cane (the long purple kind), and seventeen melons (the greeny-crackly kind), and said to all his dear families, 'Goodbye. I am going to the great grey-green, greasy Limpopo River, all set about with fever-trees, to find out what the Crocodile has for dinner.' And they all spanked him once more for luck, though he asked them most politely to stop. Then he went away, a little warm, but not at all astonished, eating melons, and throwing the rind about, because he could not pick it up. He went from Graham's Town to Kimberley, and from Kimberley to Khama's Country, and from Khama's Country he went east by north, eating melons all the time, till at last he came to the banks of the great grey-green, greasy Limpopo River, all set about with fever-trees, precisely as Kolokolo Bird had said." Rudyard Kipling, Just So Stories
iii. in John Buchan's PRESTER JOHN (set in Southern Africa) James Arcoll describes Chaka as a sort of black Napoleon?
iv. [???]
v. what Anatol said!
vi. [???]
vii. [???]
viii. [???]
ix. The Dromedary except in Dutch -- discovered or colonised Cape Town
x. [???]
Re: attempt at official actual real proper true answers before the roll-up!
Date: 2008-01-07 03:12 pm (UTC)until he was on the way back and had a trunk, of course. (Otherwise he would not have been a Tidy Pachyderm.)
Free googling now? (I guess I may have jumped the gun a bit with v above.) Found this one:
iv. Basil Lewis D'Oliveira CBE (born 4 October 1931) is a retired cricketer. Born and raised in Cape Town, South Africa, he was classified as 'coloured' under the apartheid regime, and hence barred from first-class cricket. [...]
With the support of John Arlott, he emigrated to England in 1960, [...] By 1966, he was being selected for the English national team [...]
Left out of the England team at the start of the 1968 season he was recalled by the selectors and a century against Australia seemed to have guaranteed his place in the side to play the 1968-1969 Test series in South Africa. He was shockingly left out of the touring party under the pretext that his bowling would not be effective in his native country. South African cricket officials, realising that the inclusion of D'Oliveira would inevitably lead to the cancellation of the tour and probable exclusion from test cricket, exerted pressure on the MCC hierarchy and the decision not to pick him was felt by many to be a way of keeping cricket links with South Africa open. There was serious dissent in the press to this course of events and when Warwickshire's Tom Cartwright was ruled out because of injury D'Oliveira was called up into the squad. South African prime minister BJ Vorster had already made it clear that D'Oliveira's inclusion was not acceptable and despite many negotiations the tour was cancelled. This was seen as a watershed in the sporting boycott of apartheid South Africa.
Re: attempt at official actual real proper true answers before the roll-up!
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Date: 2008-01-07 03:16 pm (UTC)ii. "the circus" assuming it's N the E
iii. Tchaka, a zulu king, possible descendant of Prester John (here's his blog!!)
iv. (non-google) Basil D'Olivera, right? it's a sporting boycott question, anyway.
v. Solomon Plaatje, tswana is spoken in northwestern SA as well as Botswana... he was also AT mafeking (i'm trying to tie this ALL into mafeking as i'd like the link to be the foundation of the scouting movement 100 years ago, but not having a lot of luck)
vi. no idea, nelson mandela, one of them must be(e)...
vii. (non-google) PW Botha?
viii. Dimitrio Tsafendas, stabbed an apartheid dude, whilst working as a parlimentary messenger
ix. The Dromidaris, on the way to set up Cape Town, by a Dutch dude
x. (non-google) is this the ANC on a train?
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Date: 2008-01-07 03:21 pm (UTC)Re: my guesses/googling
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Date: 2008-01-07 03:39 pm (UTC)rama rama rama tlabama?
Date: 2008-01-07 09:53 pm (UTC)"I realised that to distribute men all along the border would be futile, so Colonel Plumer took the duty of raising his Regiment in Rhodesia, while Colonel Hore organised his at Ramatlabama, sixteen miles north of Mafeking.
The reason for this was that Ramatlabama was in Imperial territory, in the Bechuanaland Protectorate, whereas Mafeking was in Cape Colony, and the Cape Government, being in sympathy with the Boers, would not allow us to raise troops in that territory.
Incidentally this proved a help to our scheme of producing a moral effect on our enemy, since Ramatlabama was to the Boers a dread spot, because it was there that Dr. Jameson had three years previously organised his Raid on Johannesburg.
Thus the forming of a mounted column in this same spot naturally foreboded our making another rush from this place to capture Pretoria and the President.
At least that is what President Kruger evidently thought, judging from his frequent telegrams to his border Commandants in which he repeatedly urged them to watch Ramatlabama.
Ramatlabama was nothing more than a name, a small railway siding; there was no town there."
OTOH it may well be a red herring; "raising troops" =/= "conducting government"? OTOOH, "Ramatlabama" seems suitably obscure for these guys to ask about.
Final cheat
Date: 2008-01-10 01:03 pm (UTC)vi (this was one of the very last ones they got as well):
The Bushman of the Kalahari. Comes from the book 'The Lost World of the Kalahari' by Sir Laurens van der Post. The quotation is from Chapter 1, 'The Vanished People'....."The Bushman loved honey..."
x: Machadodorp is a small town situated near the edge of the escarpment in the Mpumalanga province, South Africa with the Elands River running through the town. There is a natural radioactive spring here that is reputed to have powerful healing qualities. The town grew around a station originally named Geluk, after the sheep farm it was built on, but in 1894 the name was changed to honour Major Joachim Machado, an engineer who had surveyed the land for the proposed Pretoria-Delagoa Bay railway line. The settlement became a capital for a few months from 5 June 1900, but was only declared a municipal town in 1904. This quirk in history happened during the Second Boer War when the Transvaal Volksraad made the town their temporary seat, using railway carriages as their offices and munt after they had to evacuate Pretoria in the face of a British invasion.