wiki-illiam #106: q8

[dubdobdee]

8:
i: Who benefited from projectile vomiting?
ii: Who likened the messenger to fullers' soap?
iii: Who was a fruiterer specialising in Ficus sycomorus?
iv: Who placed the caterpillar at the end of the food chain?
v: Whose wife, a lady of ill-repute, bore him two sons and a daughter?
vi: Whose narratives both start during the second year of the monarch's reign?
vii: Who dreamed of a bear-like beast with three ribs between its teeth?
viii: Whose broken yoke was replaced by one made of iron?
ix: Who alluded twice to Leo becoming a vegetarian?
x: Who found himself in an open-air ossuary?

Comments

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

Ficus is latin for "fig", though Ficus Sycamorus may be some other-named relative of course

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

iv) Eric Carle?

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

oo good yes! i was thinkin this might be nursery rhymes but couldn't recognise any -- books for v small children would be a top theme

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

tho ix might be "the lion and the unicorn", as they eat white bread and brown?

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

Could "an open air ossuary" be an elephant's graveyard or similar?

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

x: is an open-air ossuary like an Elephant's Graveyard?

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

xpost!

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

viii) rings a massive bell with me. Fairly sure this is kid lit! Aesop's fables maybe?

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I googled "fullers' soap" for ii) and think I have the theme (and thus the ungoogled answer to v) - what is protocol here for giving it away?

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

All of these seem familiar to me, but alas after a bit of googling I think I have the theme, which is a bit disappointing. I don't think it's got anything to do with the Very Hungry Caterpillar :(

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I know vii) and ix) based on this theme too.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

And I have remembered viii)! Possibly from the CANTATA...

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Fairly sure ix) has a cantata too :)

[marnameow.livejournal.com]

and i), if the theme I have googled is the theme you have googled....

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

I think that ix) is Isiaiaiaiaiaih. Inspiration actually from the Times' headline for their version of this story, which unsurprisingly also contains a lot of "English team win one test, are scheduled for ascent into godhood next Wednesday"

[anatol-merklich.livejournal.com]

I'm getting biblical vibes from some of these, e.g. the lion lying down with the lamb rather than eating it (ix); also the ossuary (can't place it); figs are of course a major bible food; less sure about the caterpillar...

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Well, now that people have actually guessed the theme, I'll just go ahead and go

v) Jezebel
vii) Nebuchadnezzar (in Revelations)
ix) uhhh actually I have no idea who actually said the thing about the lion and the lamb! Jesus? Isaiah?

I know ii) but that was through googling so shall shh...

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Also I'm guessing that all of these are VERY EASY to google now. I looked for (and found) the caterpillar answer out of sheer curiosity.

The Bible is fucking mental, is it not.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

leviticus probbly says don't eat em!

so is it books of the bible? that is way more boring than kids books

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I only ever read the Bible as a child!

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

lion and lamb is in revelations also isn't it?

[marnameow.livejournal.com]

i) Jonah!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Haha of course!

Actually rereading v) they want Jezebel's husband, ie Ahab.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

OK then viii is SAMSON - he broke the wooden yoke and they had to get him a new iron one. I am in a similar position with wearing out socks.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

just realised a yoke's not necessarily a yolk

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Is vi) two of the gospel writers then? 2nd year of Herod's reign? This is just a guess.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

"the readng is from the fourth verse of the first book of GRUFFALO"

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

It appears that the whole lion/lamb quote doesn't actually exist. There's typically mental lion/lamb imagery in Revelations (the lamb has seven horns and seven eyes, and 24 elders start worshipping it), and the Isaiah passage that's the source of the misquote is actually about a wolf "dwelling" with a lamb. But! Isaiah also mentions the lion "eating straw like an ox", which actually fits the vegetarian thrust of the question rather better than just lying down with a lamb.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Haha and I never read the vast majority of classic kids' books (hence a tendency to grumpiness around them). OH THE JOYS OF A RELIGIOUS UPBRINGING.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

It's one writer who wrote two different texts - I'd guess one of the New Testament letter-writers, not a clue which one though.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Egg of the Long Now!

[ms-bracken.livejournal.com]

Is it relevant that it calls them narratives? Because that would make it likely to be Luke, who wrote Luke and Acts, both of which tell stories rather than being advice, encouragement in the manner of the letters. I don't know about the monarch's reign thing tho'...

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Yes, you wouldn't really call a letter a narrative come to think of it...

There are also two Samuels/two Kings/two Chronicles in the Old Testament, though again no idea as to the relevant monarchs' reigns...

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

Two of the gospels begin -- more or less -- with John the Baptist. John begins with the BEGINNING OF TIME naturally. One of them begins with a big long list of begats linking Joseph to the line of David.

In one of the Christmas readings, there's a mention of what year of Caesar Augustus's reign it is, I think. But can't see how it's "second"...

[anatol-merklich.livejournal.com]

Is it really obvious from the question that the two narratives are by or about the same person? Could it be the narratives of A and B which both start in the second year of monarch M's reign?

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

"Whose" could be a plural "whose", yes -- so eg Matthew and John, except probably not them.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Having been a Dirty Cheat and googled the rest of them, I am struck that several of the answers here are the result of slippy memory, things that everyone remembers being in the bible, but not necc. where leading to them being hung on an obvious hook (PS also it is totally two authors)

It is totally not Samson:

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

In [Jeremiah] chapter 28, Hananiah predicts, in the Temple of Jerusalem, that Babylon’s occupation of Jerusalem will be broken within two years. Jeremiah responds by placing a wood yoke on his own shoulders, and then declaring that Hananiah had spoken prematurely. The insistent Hananiah removes the wooden yoke form Jeremiah’s shoulders, stating that God will relieve Jerusalem just as Hananiah had relieved Jeremiah of his yoke.

God later appears to Jeremiah, and expresses his displeasure with Hananiah, the false prophet:

By breaking a wooden yoke, you forge an iron yoke!
For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel:
A yoke of iron I will place on the necks
of all these nations serving Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon,
and they shall serve him.

Basically this is trying to say that METAPHORS ARE USELESS.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

I think the theme is prophets from the arse-end of the Old Testament and the monarch from vi is NEBUCHADNEZZAR as them Babylonians are all over the place by then.

i. JONAH
ii. MALACHI - did his laundry with it
iii. AMOS - apparently he would make small cuts in the figs to ensure cross-pollination or something?
iv.
v. this could also be HOSEA who married a hooker called Gomer (and definitely had some kids)?
vi.
vii. DANIEL - he has a big apocalyptic dream about said bear (before/after being chucked to lions?)
viii. JEREMIAH - moaning about Neb-Z's slavery antics
ix. ISAIAH
x.