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dubdobdee ([personal profile] dubdobdee) wrote2013-12-27 10:33 am
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wiki-illiam #109 (scire ubi aliquid invenire possis ea demum maxima pars eruditionis est)*

MORE OR LESS UNCHANGING RUBRIC: welcome for the yada yada year running to the LJ wing of a quiz** sat by by some lucky schoolkids*** somewhere and etc blah blah: viz 18 themed sets of 10 questions each -- a new one every (more or less) day!!

*= latin for: "real actual knowledge is knowin how to google**** stuff" <-- THIS JOKE NEVER GETS OLD
**as published every year in the guardian just before xmas (answers some time in the new year)
***all the boys of king williams school on the isle of man sit it sight unseen then take the paper home during holidays and look stuff up to increase their score and retake it (or this used to happen in the Olden Days, for all I know Ofsted now requires they have to bellow GOVE IS GREAT in unison and then recite whole eps of the Moral Maze from memory)
****the setters used to claim they've checked nothing is INSTANTLY googleable, tho this claim seems quite porous...

1. In the year 1913:

i: what famous club was founded at Vrigstraat 20?
ii: where, innovatively, were both events made bipartite?
iii: where did the Emperor of India lose his uncle to a single gunshot?
iv: which authority on tubes was elected to the presidency at Burlington House?
v: who established the relation between an element's X-ray frequency and its atomic number?
vi: the celebration of the arrival of which migrant parasite took place for the first time in a Saxon city?
vii: after increasing problems in EC4, whose grand vernal display moved to SW3?
viii: which boy was born and would compose a nominal reminder 20 years later?
ix: who served which country as president for less than one hour?
x: what might perhaps have anticipated Tom and Jerry?

This is much easier these days than it used to be pre-internet! A couple of questions have pleasing variant answers, so I've included both.


i: is PSV Eindhoven, give or take typo, spotted by [livejournal.com profile] boyofbadgers and [livejournal.com profile] katstevens
iii: is Thessaloniki, where George I of Greece was assassinated, known (except for the venue) by twitter-user petrajane
iv: is Sir William Crookes, known by twitter-user petrajane and team :)
v: is Henry Moseley, known by twitter-user petrajane and team
vi: tho i did get an off-board suggestion concerning cheese-mites (is Abigail reading, to expand on this?), I suspect [livejournal.com profile] friedslice is correct: the migrating parasites are cuckoos, and this refs the first performance, in Leipzig, of Frederick Delius's On Hearing the First Cuckoo in Spring
vii: is the Chelsea Flower Show, known immediately by [livejournal.com profile] boyofbadgers
viii: is Benjamin Britten, who would go on to compose A Boy Is Born, looked up by [livejournal.com profile] dubdobdee
ix: is Pedro Lascuráin, looked up by [livejournal.com profile] jauntyalan
x: is almost certainly George Herriman's Krazy Kat (feat.Ignatz), as looked up by [livejournal.com profile] friedslice, but [livejournal.com profile] marnameow's suggestion that it's the Prisoners (Temporary Discharge for Ill Health) Act 1913 (also known as the " Cat and Mouse Act") is inspired (suffragettes on hunger strike were released when they became to ill, to be re-arrested when plumped up a little)

the rules, such as they are:
a: nice full answers (inc.anecdotes!) if/where poss
b: plz to say whether googled or no, and always leave reasonable time for non-googlers to get their guesses in (ie at least till next question goes up)
c: obviously you can look ahead at future questions if you want (ie elsewhere on internet) since how can we stop you?
d: plz to not bring in confirming and/or dissenting answers from other fora until next question is up and running

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
iii: In 1913, the Emperor of India is George V.
(actually I have googled this and know who it is)

i: googling Vrigstraat or Vrigstraat 20 only brings up KW!

v: also i googled this, to check it wasn't who i guessed it was and it wasn't
Edited 2013-12-27 10:56 (UTC)

[identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
i. [livejournal.com profile] boyofbadgers puts forward the following possibility (though we can't find any reference to Vrigstraat):

[identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com) 2013-12-29 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Crabbs found some Dutch-language football forum which mentioned PSV Eindhoven(sp?) were founded at a 20 Vrijstraat. Seems the g is either some peculiar archaic spelling to throw quizzers off the scent, or a typo.

[identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
I think I know vii! [livejournal.com profile] boyofbadgers' parents go there most years...

[identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
Here is the EC4 bit:



And here is the SW3 bit:

[identity profile] marnameow.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
x. Cat and mouse act! Aka the 'release hunger-striking suffragettes, then lock em back up when they are fattened up' act. Aka it actually had an official name as well. VOTES FOR WOMEN!

[identity profile] friedslice.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
My guess was Herriman's Krazy Kat & Ignatz which was first published in 1913 but this answer is way better.

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
of course in a sense Krazy Kat is simply a metaphor for the history of feminism *runs away very fast*

[identity profile] marnameow.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Iv. Burlington house is the royal academy's HQ. Tubes, though? Sound more like SCIENCE.

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
haha i though it meant the underground

[identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com) 2013-12-27 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
It was also the home of the Royal Society, among others. We were told by a guide at one of the sciency museums in London that when the Society moved into the building they had to sell off a large part of their impressive library, because all the boffins had checked the plans and gone "yup, my part of the building is all there and suitably large and impressive - looking good!" but nobody thought to check on the bits that weren't their own personal bit of turf. So they completely forgot to include a library room in the plans and had to sort of squeeze some cabinets in wherever there was room. I haven't been able to verify the story, but having worked in a university library it seems eminently plausible!

[identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
We have googled iv and the answer has an AMAZING beard.

[identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
Worked out by determining that it was NOT JJ Thomson, who is my standard guess for this sort of thing.

[identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com) 2013-12-27 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
I venture that the Emperor of India in iii is George V. His uncle on his mother's side was George I the inexplicably Danish king of Greece, who was assassinated (though I would have to look up exactly where).

Resident physicist Crabbs offers that Henry Moseley was the chap who used X-rays to prove that atomic numbers correlated to the number of electrons or something that whiz round an atom's nucleus or something.

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
petrajane's accord with my googlings (and i deleted the unsigned-in version as it replicated all this)
Edited 2013-12-27 11:05 (UTC)

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
viii: is Benjamin Britten, composer of "A Boy was Born" (had to check his birthdate tho it has of course been his centenary)

[identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com) 2013-12-27 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking of centenaries, one of these questions surely has to relate to Stravinsky's 'Rite of Spring'.

[identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com) 2013-12-30 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Per Wikipedia, The Right Of Spring's subtitle is 'Pictures of Pagan Russia in Two Parts', which might make it the bipartite event, though it's a bit tenuous for my taste.

[identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com) 2013-12-30 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
*Rite, not Right.

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2013-12-27 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] the_barnet_apethe_barnet_ape is NOT ON LJ
but offers the following by other means

vii is the RHS Chelsea Flower show (100 years old this year - though I see no justification for the EC4 bit of the question, the closest it got to the City was the Temple) (Zero google on the answer, some google on the query)

viii is Benjamin Britten - who wrote A Boy Is Born in 34. (A Univ Challenge style guess confirmed by Wiki)

x is rattling around my head - feels like a Terrytoons type of Question - or maybe a cocktail question.
Edited 2013-12-27 14:39 (UTC)

[identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com 2013-12-28 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
inner temple (and their gardens) EC4 http://www.innertemple.org.uk/about-us/the-inner-temple-garden?showall=&limitstart=

"It was the instigator of an annual show of chrysanthemums - and then in 1888 the Royal Horticultural Society chose the site to stage its Spring Flower Show. They returned each year until 1911 when the shows increasing popularity forced the RHS to find a larger home – the Royal Hospital at Chelsea. "

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Temple's in EC4 though, right?

[bopkids butloggedoutinnit]

[identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com 2013-12-28 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
since q2 is up, 9 is this dude https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Lascuráin in mexico. In Huerta's coup of that time he was made, by protocol the president when the then president resigned while held prisoner. He was then basically forced to appoint Huerta to the position he'd vacated and then instantly resign making Huerta president. Neat.
Edited 2013-12-28 21:47 (UTC)

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
isn'y one of the early (=racist) tintin books based on this story?

[identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com 2013-12-28 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
and i think i see other's got this already, but for the record it looks like iv is the son of William Henry "Mauve" Perkin. i guess 'tubes' is just = chemistry, as he was elected pres of Chemical Society

[identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com) 2013-12-29 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Mr Tubes is Sir William Crookes: meteorologist, physicist, vacuum-tube pioneer, beard-cultivator and president of the Royal Society between 1913 and 1915.

[identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
MUCH BETTER

[identity profile] petra jane (from livejournal.com) 2014-01-03 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
(I should have mentioned I had to look this one up, btw - even with my own resident meteorologist/physicist/beard-cultivator on hand)

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
he invented a thing called a crookes tube! now that his name has been said i remember him -- there was a cartoon of him (and his tube) by "Spy" reproduced in the Time-Life Book of Chemistry.
Edited 2013-12-29 13:03 (UTC)

[identity profile] friedslice.livejournal.com 2013-12-29 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Did some googling for vi - the parasite is the cuckoo and the Saxon city is Leipzig where On Hearing the First Cuckoo in Spring by Frederick Delius was first performed in 1913.

[identity profile] alextiefling.livejournal.com 2014-01-03 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] abigailb was referring to [livejournal.com profile] friend_of_tofu's suggestion of the cheese mite statue in Wüchwitz, but a perusal of Wikipedia shows that the statue is a more recent construction to celebrate the revivial of Milbenkäse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milbenk%C3%A4se) after 1970.

I was initially suspicious of the Delius answer, because I thought of parasites as having a more closely dependent relationship to their prey than cuckoos do, but I see (again from Wiki) that they are classified as 'brood parasites'. The reappearance of Delius in the Surrey round is also telling, so I'm confident that [livejournal.com profile] friedslice has it.