dubdobdee: (hatti)
dubdobdee ([personal profile] dubdobdee) wrote2007-11-06 01:22 pm

teach dubdobdee more lessons

ok i got good skooling here but i need MORE

i. i want a good guide-to-the-perplexed for ECONOMICS --> [livejournal.com profile] triffidfarm is meant to be on this case but market jitters have infected him with SLUGGISMUS
ii. i want to know abt SPINOZA --> [livejournal.com profile] byebyepride is this yr purlieu?
iii. i think someone arsked abt this recently but is there a non-wanky book on social networks?

ALSO:
what nightclass shd i take? i am thinkin DRAWING!! <--disclaimer: may not happen

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
have you read anything by alexander nehemas?

(the weird thing is that i think kp's current jag is completely at odds w.what i TAKE to be the rad.en. project) (on the other hand i saw there was a short intro to spinoza by r.scruton -- SPINoza more like -- so maybe i'm just projecting)

[identity profile] byebyepride.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I have flicked through some articles. He's supposed to be good, or so I hear. I can't figure out if kp has an actual stance or not! I used to care, but I gave up.

[identity profile] byebyepride.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I was intrigued when Spinoza kept coming up in discussion at first, but when i realised that all romantic philosophy and literature is built on Spinoza and Leibniz, I was a) less surprised and b) less interested. KP follows the line which says that everything goes wrong with Kant, no? In which case he needs a non-Kantian because pre-Kantian metaphysics, whereas I am happy with messy old empiricist rationalism a la Hume (or what I have read of him) or something more like dialectical pragmatism if that's possible. There are some great early C20th metaphysicians in the Spinoza line - my fav is Samuel Alexander - but I assume all bergsonism and process philosophy has Spinoza behind it somewhere. I once gave a lame conference paper as a favour for a pal arguing that Hardt and Negri were Spinozist theologians and we should read S. Alexander instead as his stuff was at least funny (I wish I had put it like this!). I'm sure there's much more to it than this and I am being a dullard from a philosophical p.of.v. but what the hey!

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
spinoza popped back into my head bcz in a thread on hayek's contrast of "social knowledge" (called "metis") with "instrumentalist" (?or bureaucratic or "high-modernist") knowledge, someone on crooked timber -- a very aggressive radical left pragmatist -- was i. mocking all the foregathered libertarians and "free" marketeers and academic rationalists, ii. suddenly said (pretty much out of nowhere), this all comes down to "spinoza vs descartes" (and he then rather untypically said he didn't know much about either)

anyway i guess i am interested in non-hayekian examinations of "metis"

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
omg <-- the interwebs deliver! a spinozablog part-run by someone studies financial markets and "thinks them a valuable testing-bed for theories about rationality“, complete with tags for eurovision!

[identity profile] byebyepride.livejournal.com 2007-11-06 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
wow. they're pretty good writers. memo to self - must be more of a rationalist.