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dubdobdee ([personal profile] dubdobdee) wrote2007-04-24 11:23 am

the space needle is two years younger than me!



and plus: i met lots of nice ppl and only saw ONE really poor paper and am feeling super-psyched for thinking about music (possibly)

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
re the line "Why rotten music-writing creates worse history"

deanin' bob xgau said to me in the lift that he was 'peeved" that i didn't pursue this more -- i said in my intro that i had cried off reading and analysing loads of rotten writing, bcz when it came to it i just couldn't face it

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
i imagine Xgau kind of floating over the whole conference on the monorail like some sort of AETHEREAL CLOUD, questioning all to make them clear up their thinking...

call him by his etc

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
bobbin' dean xgau is better isn't it? i blame h.jetlag

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] nicolars.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I really would have liked to have heard this.

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
We can still get to read it... yes, mark...? Or are you saving the print version for your book?

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
well there isn't really a "print" version -- i prepared some readings (from adorno, meltzer, and j.l.austin's "a plea for excuses", as cited in the aesthetics of rock) -- and then having read them discussed them kinda ad lib, so the structure was pre-prepared but the sentences not so much

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
GOOD WORK, freejazz paper givin' :)

apparentlysimonreynoldswasmumblingintohispieceofpaperandreadingitverbatim again...

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
yes there's an interesting cross-tension = even though the academics often write less engagingly they have a better sense of length and of how to deliver to a class of bored infants students, while the journos write better but have next to no delivery skeez

(tho it's actually not that cut and dried, and plenty of the papers were good both ways)
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Re: this was the proposal

[personal profile] koganbot 2007-04-24 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm in a writing group and I've discovered that I can't read for shit, all the various tones of voices, shades of meaning, etc. that I put into my writing to make my writing read as a voice don't help my actual voice to sound like a voice when I'm reading. Whereas I can speak well and animatedly, even though I "um" and "you know" and [laughs] far too much (and haven't spoken much for a formal audience). I would probably go for the notes thing if I ever had a "paper" to give. But I'd try to make sure it was recorded.

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] dickmalone.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
He really was! And then, being ignorant of these things, I couldn't really understand the lyrics in the sound clips he played, so I got really lost.

I think next time (should there be one) I'm definitely going to go from notes too--some of the best presentations I saw did that, as they were generally more lively.

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
hehe, sorry, i did borrow the simon thing from yr review, but that's EXACTLY THE SAME as when we saw him talking about rip it up in London

Re: this was the proposal

[identity profile] nicolars.livejournal.com 2007-04-24 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't hate on him for that, that's pretty much how I present. :(